Legislature(2021 - 2022)DAVIS 106

04/21/2022 03:00 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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03:05:37 PM Start
03:06:34 PM HB295
03:10:23 PM Confirmation Hearing(s):
03:30:11 PM HB382
04:10:11 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Consideration of Governor’s Appointees: Mental TELECONFERENCED
Health Trust Authority
*+ HB 382 INSULIN COVERAGE:INSURANCE;MEDICAID TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 295 DENTIST SPEC. LICENSE/RADIOLOGIC EQUIP TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 295 Out of Committee
           HB 382-INSULIN COVERAGE:INSURANCE;MEDICAID                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:30:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ZULKOSKY announced  that  the final  order of  business                                                               
would  be HOUSE  BILL  NO.  382, "An  Act  relating to  insurance                                                               
coverage for pharmacy services."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:30:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SNYDER, as prime sponsor,  explained that HB 382 had two                                                               
main  focuses:   promoting  prevention to  produce better  health                                                               
outcomes and improving  health care access.  She  stated that the                                                               
bill  was  motivated  by  the   "astronomically  high"  price  of                                                               
insulin, citing  that the current $300  cost of a single  vial is                                                               
four  times  what it  was  in  1996,  including inflation.    She                                                               
reported  that  in  Alaska, 50,000  people  were  diagnosed  with                                                               
diabetes, with an average of  5,000 new diagnoses every year, and                                                               
an  additional  estimated 15,000  people  have  diabetes but  are                                                               
unaware.   She shared that  there is  also a large  population of                                                               
pre-diabetic  people in  the state  and mentioned  that the  high                                                               
cost  of  insulin can  force  patients  to choose  between  their                                                               
medication and paying for rent  or groceries or to "ration" their                                                               
prescriptions and  not use them  as prescribed.  She  stated that                                                               
the  bill would  put  a monthly  cap on  insulin  copay which  is                                                               
similar  to legislation  that has  been passed  in other  states.                                                               
She addressed  the concern about increased  premiums by reporting                                                               
findings  from various  studies that  said the  cost per  insured                                                               
individual would increase  by somewhere between 70 cents  to $3 a                                                               
year.  She  shared that there were states that  saw a decrease in                                                               
premium  costs,  and  that  even  those  where  their  costs  did                                                               
increase  to  the highest  end  of  the estimate  described  that                                                               
increase as "negligible."   She went on share that  the cap would                                                               
allow more people  to have regular utilization of  insulin at the                                                               
appropriate  dosage,   which  would  save  additional   money  on                                                               
healthcare  overall   by  reducing  the  number   and  length  of                                                               
hospitalizations and the severity of disease.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:36:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAMES HOLZENBERG, Staff, Representative  Liz Snyder, on behalf of                                                               
Representative   Snyder,  prime   sponsor,  read   the  sectional                                                               
analysis for  HB 382  [included in  the committee  packet], which                                                               
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 1: Adds conforming language to AS 21.42.390 (a)                                                                     
     Coverage for treatment of diabetes                                                                                         
     stating that coverage for other kinds of medicines                                                                         
     required by this section are still subject to                                                                              
     standard policy provisions, except as provided in a                                                                        
     new section, (d), which is in section 2 of the                                                                             
     bill.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 2: Adds a new section to AS 21.42.390 that states                                                                   
     that a private health care insurer that                                                                                    
     operates within the State cannot charge more than $100                                                                     
     in copays for a 30-day supply of insulin.                                                                                  
     There is an exception, if necessary, for some high                                                                         
     deductible health plans that are eligible for a                                                                            
     health savings account tax deduction under 26 U.S.C.                                                                       
     223.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 3: Adds conforming language to AS 21.42.420                                                                         
     Coverage for prescription drugs; specialty                                                                                 
     drug tiers prohibited, ensuring that all other kinds                                                                       
     of medicine are still subject to standard policy                                                                           
     provisions defined in other statutes.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 4: Adds a new section stating that these                                                                              
     provisions apply to all insurance policies created on                                                                      
     or after the bill's effective date.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:37:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS asked  whether  the  attorney general  had                                                               
attempted to pursue legal action  against the insurance companies                                                               
for unfair  trade practices under the  Alaska Consumer Protection                                                               
Act.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY  noted that there were  no representatives from                                                               
the Department  of Law  (DOL) available  for questions  and asked                                                               
Co-Chair Snyder  to follow up  with the department and  share her                                                               
findings with the committee later.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   SNYDER  confirmed   that   she   would  provide   that                                                               
information to the  committee and noted that HB 382  is the first                                                               
step  in solving  the problem  of increasing  medicine costs;  it                                                               
focuses on the  relationship between insurers and  patients.  She                                                               
acknowledged that  there are many  other factors  centered around                                                               
the actions  of pharmaceutical  companies but  said she  does not                                                               
see those factors  being altered by the presence or  absence of a                                                               
cap.    She  stated  that  she   would  want  to  work  with  the                                                               
administration  to  create  future legislation  to  combat  those                                                               
other factors.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS commented  that he  wants to  look at  the                                                               
full  range  of  options  for  tackling  the  "predatory  pricing                                                               
practices"  and   would  welcome  the  opportunity   to  work  on                                                               
legislation complimentary to HB 382.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:39:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY proceeded with invited testimony.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:40:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAURA KELLER,  Managing Director  of Advocacy,  American Diabetes                                                               
Association,  referred  to  a non-partisan  study  on  copay  cap                                                               
legislation from  California that  projected a raise  in premiums                                                               
by less than one percent and  a decrease in emergency room visits                                                               
and hospitalization  costs by  ten percent.   She  referenced the                                                               
same  State   of  Washington  legislation  Co-Chair   Snyder  had                                                               
mentioned  and said  that the  initial  cap of  $100 had  lowered                                                               
premiums,  allowing   the  state  to  pass   further  legislation                                                               
dropping the copay to $35,  matching the recently passed national                                                               
Medicaid cap.   She highlighted that there is no  generic form of                                                               
insulin  on the  market  at more  affordable  costs unlike  other                                                               
major pharmaceuticals, and this has  forced families in Alaska to                                                               
choose between paying  their rent or getting  the needed insulin.                                                               
She suggested  that the  committee consider  lowering the  cap to                                                               
align  with the  $35 national  cap but  emphasized that  "any cap                                                               
would be  better than none"  and would work towards  increasing a                                                               
sense  of security  for people  with diabetes  and saving  lives.                                                               
She reported  that the State  of Alaska spends an  estimated $575                                                               
million on  diabetes and associated complications  every year due                                                               
to  the  cost-prohibitive  nature  of  insulin  for  many  Alaska                                                               
patients.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:43:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS asked  how many  people have  had to  seek                                                               
more  expensive care  after not  receiving their  insulin due  to                                                               
"price gouging by drug companies."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KELLER  responded  that  she  would  work  to  provide  that                                                               
information to the committee.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:44:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SPOHNHOLZ requested  further details  on some  of                                                               
the   complications  of   improperly  managed   insulin-dependent                                                               
diabetes that can send patients to emergency care.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. KELLER explained  that insulin allows blood cells  to take in                                                               
nutrients, and for people like  herself with Type 1 diabetes that                                                               
do not produce  any insulin on their own, they  must take insulin                                                               
to survive.   She described  what happens within  the bloodstream                                                               
when there  is no  insulin present to  process nutrients  as high                                                               
blood sugar  levels creating  a "sludge" within  the blood.   She                                                               
stated   that  being   unable  to   process  sugar   through  the                                                               
bloodstream can  lead to many different  complications, including                                                               
retinopathy,  neuropathy, potential  amputations, kidney  failure                                                               
and dialysis,  increased dental issues, the  possibility of heart                                                               
disease,  and even  death.    She concluded  that  being able  to                                                               
manage blood  sugar appropriately  with insulin  allows diabetics                                                               
to  reduce their  chances of  these costly  and sometimes  deadly                                                               
complications.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:46:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  posited  that   the  core  issue  is  the                                                               
monopolization  of  insulin  production  and  asked  whether  any                                                               
states have sought other ways  of producing and providing insulin                                                               
in a more cost-effective manner.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KELLER  replied  that  California  had  looked  into  making                                                               
generic medications  available to  the public, with  insulin high                                                               
on  the priority  list, but  the process  was interrupted  by the                                                               
COVID-19  pandemic.     She  mentioned  that   other  states  had                                                               
expressed interest  in joining California's efforts  in this, but                                                               
that  putting that  project  into motion  would  require a  large                                                               
investment of  time and resources.   She explained  that creating                                                               
the  facilities,  producing  the  drugs, and  getting  them  into                                                               
pharmacies  would   be  a  very   long-term  solution,   and  she                                                               
emphasized  that a  copay  cap could  be  implemented quickly  to                                                               
provide  needed relief  for  Alaskans  while more  time-intensive                                                               
options are put into place.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  expressed his hope that  Alaska would seek                                                               
to join  the consortium to produce  insulin at a lower  cost.  He                                                               
asked  whether Ms.  Keller  is aware  of  attorneys general  from                                                               
other  states   that  have  pursued  legal   action  against  the                                                               
"monopoly" that pharmaceutical companies  have on insulin, and he                                                               
opined that Alaska would have  to pursue criminal or civil action                                                               
due to those companies' violation of multiple Alaska Statutes.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KELLER  said  she  is  not aware  of  any  attorney  general                                                               
currently in that process.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:50:12 PM}                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
BRANDON  OUSLEY, Chief  Executive Officer,  Anchorage Fracture  &                                                               
Orthopedic;  Consultant,  Capstone   Endocrinology  and  Diabetes                                                               
Center, began  invited testimony on HB  382 by sharing that   his                                                               
journey  with advocating  for  affordable  diabetes care  started                                                               
with his  daughter, who has Type  1 diabetes.  He  opined that it                                                               
can be  easy for  people to  think diabetes is  "no big  deal" if                                                               
they  do not  have direct  exposure to  it.   He underscored  the                                                               
importance  of  proper  health  care  access  by  mentioning  the                                                               
100,000 prediabetic  people in Alaska,  and he applauded  the cap                                                               
proposed  under  HB 382, commenting that he would  love to see it                                                               
match the  $35 in the Affordable  Insulin Now Act.   He explained                                                               
that  in his  personal and  professional experience  dealing with                                                               
access  to diabetes  care, a  cap on  copay is  only one  step of                                                               
controlling the "downstream" cost.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  OUSLEY shared  that  when his  daughter  was diagnosed,  the                                                               
closest pediatric  endocrinologist that  would admit them  was in                                                               
Utah, exemplifying  that finding  a practitioner to  manage one's                                                               
condition  and  dosage  of  insulin   is  just  as  difficult  as                                                               
affording the insulin.   He reported that there is  a shortage of                                                               
endocrinologists   throughout  the   country  and   that  it   is                                                               
particularly  hard to  attract those  specialists to  practice in                                                               
Alaska,  further  stating  that  most  of  the  small  number  of                                                               
existing endocrinologists  in the state are  several years beyond                                                               
retirement  age.    He  pointed  out  that  one  of  the  biggest                                                               
financial burdens to  both patients and the state is  the cost of                                                               
dialysis, and  he mentioned that dialysis  centers get reimbursed                                                               
by Medicare  for 2,500 to  7,000 percent.   In comparison  to the                                                               
numerous challenges  and costs associated with  diabetes care, he                                                               
opined that solving  the cost of insulin with a  copay cap is "an                                                               
easy piece" of this complicated issue.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:54:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS asked what  further measures in addition to                                                               
the proposed cap  Mr. Ousley would suggest to  decrease the price                                                               
of insulin.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  OUSLEY reported  that every  diabetes center  he has  worked                                                               
with in  Alaska has a very  high number of self-pay  patients who                                                               
are  constantly  in  search  of cheaper  insulin.    He  strongly                                                               
advocated that  the state "go  out of  [its] way" to  address the                                                               
need of the uninsured as well.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FIELDS  asked whether Mr. Ousley  is familiar with                                                               
ways other states have provided insulin to uninsured patients.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. OUSELY replied that he is not.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY redirected the question to Ms. Keller.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KELLER described  a  component of  the  passed Utah  insulin                                                               
copay bill  called the "insulin  purchasing program"  that allows                                                               
uninsured patients  to buy  insulin for the  same price  that the                                                               
state's employee  plans pay.   She explained  that the  system is                                                               
all  digital, which  kept  the operation  costs  for the  program                                                               
down, and once approved, uninsured  applicants receive a card via                                                               
email that allows  them to pay for the medication  at a pharmacy,                                                               
but  at  the  much  lower  rate that  is  granted  to  the  state                                                               
insurance  plan.   She  stated  that it  is  a widely  successful                                                               
program with  most pharmacies  in Utah  accepting the  cards, and                                                               
she offered her understanding that  the executive and legislative                                                               
branches of  Utah's government are  pleased with how it  has been                                                               
implemented so far.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS  requested  "the department"  analyze  the                                                               
viability of instituting a program similar to Utah's in Alaska.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:58:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SPOHNHOLZ questioned  the  copay  for insulin  in                                                               
Utah.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. KELLER replied  that the cost through  the purchasing program                                                               
is $75 a vial.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:59:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SNYDER  explained  that  within  the  context  of                                                               
inflation, $75 per  vial is comparable to 1994's rate  of $20 per                                                               
vial.   She mentioned that  typically patients use two  vials per                                                               
month, which translates to a $150 monthly copay.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KELLER responded  that the  Utah cap  for copay  is $30  per                                                               
month, which covers as many vials as are prescribed.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:00:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALISTA OUSLEY  began invited testimony  by sharing  her personal                                                               
experience as  a teenager  with Type 1  diabetes.   She explained                                                               
that although she has a  strong support system between her family                                                               
and  her  medical  team,  she   still  struggles  with  the  many                                                               
challenges of  managing her  health.   In the  8 years  since her                                                               
diagnosis,  she reported,  she has  used 176  vials, which  would                                                               
have cost  $35,200 without insurance.   She posited  that without                                                               
any change,  the costs of  insulin will grow to  an "unimaginable                                                               
number," and  she asked  the committee  to consider  amending the                                                               
bill to  have a $35  cap to ensure  insulin is available  for all                                                               
Type 1  diabetics.  She  opined that if  HB 382 were  not passed,                                                               
lives would  be put at  risk as insulin remained  inaccessible to                                                               
many  Alaskans.   She argued  that access  to insulin  provides a                                                               
higher quality  of life to diabetics  that should be a  right and                                                               
not a luxury.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:02:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:03 p.m. to 4:09 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:09:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ZULKOSKY opened  public  testimony on  HB  382.   After                                                               
ascertaining that  no one  wished to  testify, she  closed public                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[HB 382 was held over.]                                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
1. HB 382 Version A.PDF HHSS 4/21/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 382
2. HB 382 Sponsor Statement Version A.pdf HHSS 4/21/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 382
3. HB 382 Sectional Analysis Version A.pdf HHSS 4/21/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 382
4. HB 382 Supporting Document - ADA Alaska Diabetes Fact Sheet, 4.19.22.pdf HHSS 4/21/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 382
5. HB 382 Supporting Document - ADA Insulin Fact Sheet, 4.19.22.pdf HHSS 4/21/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 382
6. HB 382 Supporting Document - ADA Insurance Premiums Fact Sheet, 4.19.22.pdf HHSS 4/21/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 382
7. HB 382 Supporting Document - Health Care Cost Institute Paper, 4.19.22.pdf HHSS 4/21/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 382
8. HB 382 FN - DCCED.pdf HHSS 4/21/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 382
9. HB 382 FN - DOH.pdf HHSS 4/21/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 382
HB 295 - AM #1.pdf HHSS 4/21/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 295
Kevin Fimon Resume 2021 AMHTA_Redacted.pdf HHSS 4/21/2022 3:00:00 PM
Agnes Moran Application_Redacted.pdf HHSS 4/21/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 382 LOO 4.21.22.pdf HHSS 4/21/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 382
HB 382 Supporting Document - Kentucky Fiscal Note, 4.21.2022.pdf HHSS 4/21/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 382